Thank God! At last Nigel Owens enforces (Caterpillar) Law - Use it

[Not Kurt Weaver]

Isn't thanking God and mentioning Nigel Owens in the same thread title a bit redundant? :biggrin:

Don't be ridiculous. Nigel isn't God.....
he's just a Saint!

Edit....sometimes it seems like he thinks he's God tho!!

Decorily The correct, well played punchline is "Don't be ridiculous, God is not a referee"

 

[chbg]

I'm in the enforcement group, particularly given the actual wording of the Law, as given by CR, which is surprisingly clear in this instance.

 

[Harry]

What the Law actually says is

[LAWS].When the ball has been clearly won by a team at the ruck, and is available to be played, the referee calls “use it”, after which the ball must be played away from the ruck within five seconds [/LAWS]

Surely "played away from the ruck" means run it or pass it. Making the ruck longer does neither

 

[Not Kurt Weaver]

Surely "played away from the ruck" means run it or pass it. Making the ruck longer does neither

Or, I suppose kicking the ball would also be played away from ruck. Knocking would also.

 

[Balones]

Don't really know what the fuss is over. The direction to referees (and reviewers) as to how to referee this situation has been clear for some time. Since the direction/guidance the availability of the ball has sped up, even at the top end of he game, and as such there has not been any reason to penalise or apply the scrum. During the lockdown etc some players/clubs must have forgotten and as a result the scenario outlined in #1 was picked up as it should have been.

 

[Marc Wakeham]

Don't be ridiculous. Nigel isn't God.....
he's just a Saint!

Edit....sometimes it seems like he thinks he's God tho!!

It's rumoured that God calls him God though.

 

[Camquin]

Come on he has only got a my bloody efforts. He needs to get an other buggers efforts before he gets offered a call me god, let alone a kindly call me god or god calls me god.

 

[didds]

I would like to see the 5 seconds reduced to 3.

well that way we may actually see something happen within 7 seconds anyway...

didds

 

[Dickie E]

https://www.ruck.co.uk/referee-nigel-owens-goes-viral-for-bold-refereeing-call/

Here is the clip

Is saying "use that please" the same as "use it" to a non-English speaking player?

Note: this is a general, not a specific, question. I don't know who the Racing SH is so an answer of "that's Fred Bloggs, he used to play for Harlequins" isn't what I'm looking for.

In the same way as "crouch, bind, set", is "use it" a prescribed phrase or are variations such as "play it", "there it is", "get on with it", "that's playable", etc allowable?

 

[crossref]

He should use standard phrases , of course

 

[Marc Wakeham]

https://www.ruck.co.uk/referee-nigel-owens-goes-viral-for-bold-refereeing-call/

Here is the clip

Is saying "use that please" the same as "use it" to a non-English speaking player?

Note: this is a general, not a specific, question. I don't know who the Racing SH is so an answer of "that's Fred Bloggs, he used to play for Harlequins" isn't what I'm looking for.

In the same way as "crouch, bind, set", is "use it" a prescribed phrase or are variations such as "play it", "there it is", "get on with it", "that's playable", etc allowable?

DEfinately stick to the "legal" phrasing. We can expect non English speakers to learn the jargon of rugby. We should not expect them to learn personalised phrasing of referees.

 

[OB..]

This reminds me of the problems of expecting referees to use foreign languages.

Munster were playing a French team, and at a ruck the (world famous) referee shouted "Laissez, Rouge!" (He should, of course, have said "Lâchez"). Unfortunately Rouge = red ie Munster. The French knew Munster were being told to release, and Munster thought the French were being warned because the referee was speaking French.