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Go well, Phil.
I'll be interested in your thoughts on 50/22. By all accounts, you (& ARs) will need to concentrate on where kick is taken including how the ball got into the kicker's half.
Please only vocalise 'taken back' IF the ball is kicked -the kicker should know the laws without you coaching him.
Interesting discussion.
I expect a referee to vocalise “inside” or “outside” early to the scrum-half (and possibly outside half if he is within hearing distance) if there is any doubt about positioning and then expect them to act accordingly. The call of ‘taken back’ is primarily used to inform the ARs so that they can act accordingly. It is only secondary information to the players.
so if you didn't have ARs, would you say nothing?
so if you didn't have ARs, would you say nothing?
Here's what I do:
1. if its a set piece (lineout or scrum) I'll tell SH if we are inside or outside 22. I won't communicate anything further
2. if its general play, ruck or maul, I'll call 'taken back' as ball crosses 22 unless it is obvious that a kick isn't likely (ie ball is passed to a forward pod for a rumble upfield)
There is a danger to all this. If, for whatever reason, you don't do it on one occasion you'll get blamed if it goes wrong for a team.
Here's what I do:
1. if its a set piece (lineout or scrum) I'll tell SH if we are inside or outside 22. I won't communicate anything further
2. if its general play, ruck or maul, I'll call 'taken back' as ball crosses 22 unless it is obvious that a kick isn't likely (ie ball is passed to a forward pod for a rumble upfield)
There is a danger to all this. If, for whatever reason, you don't do it on one occasion you'll get blamed if it goes wrong for a team.