Level 1 Yoyo endurance verses the Beep test !

[Jacko]

You absolutely will not be required to hit level 20 on the Yo Yo IRTL level 1. That is IRB optimal, and bloody hard work. As stated above, RFU panel only need 16. I don't think it even goes up to 30!

 

[FlipFlop]

Depends if you talk level 1 or level 2 test.

Level 1 test is easier than the level 2. See: http://www.topendsports.com/testing/yo-yo-intermittent-levels.htm

 

[Jacko]

Ahhh - I think I see the discrepancy. I believe all the people expressing disbelief are talking in speed levels (ie. 16.1 for Panel, 20.1 for IRB optimal), whereas the question may well be asking about number of shuttles, so 20 is speed level 15.

 

[crossref]

there are so many different flavours of this test, and nowhere does it seem to be written down exactly what specification is used for referees in RFUland.

 

[Jacko]

Hmmm got my Yo Yo test on the 5th June.
Have to reach level 20 (15km/h). Now the problem is. I've only just been cleared for light exercise after my DVT. Any idea how to whip my body into shape in 2 weeks?

My suggestion would be to point out to them that you are coming back from injury and may well not be ready for testing on 5th June. Then ease yourself back in as you would if there was no testing and see how it is nearer the time. There's no point making it worse and in my experience people understand that injuries happen and will allow you to test at a different time. They may be less forgiving if you don't mention the injury until after you've failed the test!

 

[Daftmedic]

The Boss knows I've had a DVT (looks like what happens in Vegas doesn't stay there).
I'm going to do the test on Thursday with my rugby club. See how it goes. If I get level 14-14.5 I will go ahead with the test on the 5th. If you don't hear from me. I've obviously thrown the clot and had a cardiac arrest.:biggrin:

 

[Daftmedic]

Done some digging.
This chart may explain how they hot lvl 20

level speed stage shuttle speed level speed
(km/hr) accumulated dist.
(m)
1 1 1 5 10.0 40
2 2 1 8 11.5 * 80
3 3 1 11 13.0 120
4 3 2 11 13.0 160
5 4 1 12 13.5 200
6 4 2 12 13.5 240
7 4 3 12 13.5 280
8 5 1 13 14.0 320
9 5 2 13 14.0 360
10 5 3 13 14.0 400
11 5 4 13 14.0 440
12 6 1 14 14.5 480
13 6 2 14 14.5 520
14 6 3 14 14.5 560
15 6 4 14 14.5 600
16 6 5 14 14.5 640
17 6 6 14 14.5 680
18 6 7 14 14.5 720
19 6 8 14 14.5 760
20 7 1 15 15.0 800
21 7 2 15 15.0 840
22 7 3 15 15.0 880
23 7 4 15 15.0 920
24 7 5 15 15.0 960
25 7 6 15 15.0 1000
26 7 7 15 15.0 1040
27 7 8 15 15.0 1080
28 8 1 16 15.5 1120
29 8 2 16 15.5 1160
30 8 3 16 15.5 1200
31 8 4 16 15.5 1240
32 8 5 16 15.5 1280
33 8 6 16 15.5 1320
34 8 7 16 15.5 1360
35 8 8 16 15.5 1400
36 9 1 17 16.0 1440
37 9 2 17 16.0 1480
38 9 3 17 16.0 1520
39 9 4 17 16.0 1560
40 9 5 17 16.0 1600
41 9 6 17 16.0 1640
42 9 7 17 16.0 1680
43 9 8 17 16.0 1720
44 10 1 18 16.5 1760
45 10 2 18 16.5 1800
46 10 3 18 16.5 1840
47 10 4 18 16.5 1880
48 10 5 18 16.5 1920
49 10 6 18 16.5 1960
50 10 7 18 16.5 2000
51 10 8 18 16.5 2040
52 11 1 19 17.0 2080
53 11 2 19 17.0 2120
54 11 3 19 17.0 2160
55 11 4 19 17.0 2200
56 11 5 19 17.0 2240
57 11 6 19 17.0 2280
58 11 7 19 17.0 2320
59 11 8 19 17.0 2360
60 12 1 20 17.5 2400
61 12 2 20 17.5 2440
62 12 3 20 17.5 2480
63 12 4 20 17.5 2520
64 12 5 20 17.5 2560
65 12 6 20 17.5 2600
66 12 7 20 17.5 2640
67 12 8 20 17.5 2680
68 13 1 21 18.0 2720
69 13 2 21 18.0 2760
70 13 3 21 18.0 2800
71 13 4 21 18.0 2840
72 13 5 21 18.0 2880
73 13 6 21 18.0 2920
74 13 7 21 18.0 2960
75 13 8 21 18.0 3000
76 14 1 22 18.5 3040
77 14 2 22 18.5 3080
78 14 3 22 18.5 3120
79 14 4 22 18.5 3160
80 14 5 22 18.5 3200
81 14 6 22 18.5 3240
82 14 7 22 18.5 3280
83 14 8 22 18.5 3320
84 15 1 23 19.0 3360
85 15 2 23 19.0 3400
86 15 3 23 19.0 3440
87 15 4 23 19.0 3480
88 15 5 23 19.0 3520
89 15 6 23 19.0 3560
90 15 7 23 19.0 3600
91 15 8 23 19.0 3640

 

[Drift]

My suggestion would be to point out to them that you are coming back from injury and may well not be ready for testing on 5th June. Then ease yourself back in as you would if there was no testing and see how it is nearer the time. There's no point making it worse and in my experience people understand that injuries happen and will allow you to test at a different time. They may be less forgiving if you don't mention the injury until after you've failed the test!

What he said.

 

[Simon Thomas]

Daft medic

We use the level 2 (edit - Jacko says it is level 1 - he knows the technical details better than me, I just get the results given to me the RFU Trainer who runs the tests) yo yo test as a Society for our Development Refereees as that is what is required by our Federation and South West Group and to make 16.2 to qualify - the same as the RFU Panel requirement.

I thought South East Group used the same so odd that your Society / Federation uses the Level 1 test. Maybe worth checking with Nick Cousins or Mark Brown on that. (Edit - maybe not so odd as Jacko says it is Level 1 test)

Unless you are fully fit do not do it.

 

[Jacko]

Are you sure you use level 2 Simon? See https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...wQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNGvMqmiEzayHO79CqBL-zjDg2QvxQ

 

[Simon Thomas]

Are you sure you use level 2 Simon? See https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...wQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNGvMqmiEzayHO79CqBL-zjDg2QvxQ

Now even I am confused - level 1, level 2 ? I need to check.

Whichever one, it is the standard RFU yo yo used by RFU for Panel so if Jacko says it is level 1 he should know as he does for Panel and that is what we use to be consistent. It was delivered by KML1 recently for our two Federation nominations, both of whom made 16.5 easily but they are both super fit mid 20s.

Only place I have heard of level 20 on Yo Yo is for Chris' Pro Academy candidates.

 

[crossref]

are we totally confident that all the referees across the country are actually doing the same test?

 

[Toby Warren]

are we totally confident that all the referees across the country are actually doing the same test?

In fact we know they are not.

With the panel requirements being more widely known I think it is a shame that we don't all do the same thing

 

[Simon Thomas]

are we totally confident that all the referees across the country are actually doing the same test?

Crossref

No idea about the other Regional Divisions but all RFU managed Yo Yo tests in South West should be the same - sorry if I confused everyone by calling it the Level 2 test. Jacko corrected me on that.

I only know it as Yo Yo and that we set 16 to be in line with Panel even for our L6 and L7 Society Refs with any aspiration for Federation development, as it is the Southern Federation basic criteria for consideration to be on squad (and every other Federation in South West Group), as it is a mandatory requirement for any Group nomination. This current season the 16 level was extended to all hopefuls on the South West Group "Talent Identification Programme" - they had to have signed of Yo Yo test at 16+ before attending the two seminar days at Avonmouth RFC for all grades which included some L9 and L10 attendees.

Yo Yo tests are run by RFU Panel managers, TDOs, RFU Trainers or Development Department paid staff, who are supplied the RFU Yo Yo kit. I get a signed off confirmation of test date, referee, and level reached from the RFU authorised test organiser.

 

[Pinky]

Daftmedic listed the Yo-you speed and cumulatives and I am still not clear, for example, what is meant by level 16 or indeed level 16.2. It would be easier if we used the 1 to 91 and then you would be clear wether you meant 28, 29, 36, 37 or indeed 44 as required to exceed 16.2. Still not clear.

 

[Toby Warren]

Daftmedic listed the Yo-you speed and cumulatives and I am still not clear, for example, what is meant by level 16 or indeed level 16.2. It would be easier if we used the 1 to 91 and then you would be clear wether you meant 28, 29, 36, 37 or indeed 44 as required to exceed 16.2. Still not clear.

There is a table of the distances levels which helps - Phil E has it I think.

a score of 16.2 means this;

The speed is 16 (I assume KPH but there may not be a direct corrolation)

The .2 shows how many shuttles you've done at that speed. A shuttle being 40m - 20 there and back.

 

[Pinky]

There is a table of the distances levels which helps - Phil E has it I think.

a score of 16.2 means this;

The speed is 16 (I assume KPH but there may not be a direct corrolation)

The .2 shows how many shuttles you've done at that speed. A shuttle being 40m - 20 there and back.

Toby, you may be right, but if you look at the table in Daftmedic's post there are 12 levels with 16 in it and one that might make it to 16 which actually has shuttles as a sub level, but would be off the scale above level 91. Not clear to me, I'm afraid.

 

[4eyesbetter]

The table is mildly confusing.

The standard way I've seen of referring to your result is X.Y ; in which X is taken from the "speed level" column of that table (which is not tied to your actual speed in any helpful way), and Y is taken from the shuttle column. This is easily confused with the speed in KPH of each shuttle, which is unhelpfully listed in the table in exactly the same format, despite it being a completely different thing.

So, 15.5 = "The fifth shuttle at speed level 15"; or "level 24"; or "960m total distance".

 

[Daftmedic]

Well. So came up 4 shuttles short of the 15.1/20 mark or whatever other speed level 6 at 15kph shannanagins my left calf felt like exploding post DVT. I can wimp out of the fitness test in two weeks under medical grounds. But..... Being so close to passing at my rugby club and being side lined for three weeks. I think I can do this.
My wife was there doing the scoring and she said, "four shuttles is nothing, get yourself out and fartlek and you can do it easily". Then said," doesn't mean you can't Hoover the house and put the washing out"!
What more of a motivational speech do you need?:deadhorse:

 

[Simon Thomas]

Well. So came up 4 shuttles short of the 15.1/20 mark or whatever other speed level 6 at 15kph shannanagins my left calf felt like exploding post DVT. I can wimp out of the fitness test in two weeks under medical grounds. But..... Being so close to passing at my rugby club and being side lined for three weeks.

Well done DaftMedic

After injury that is a creditable performance to get to 15 - don't rush and build up training over the next 5-6 weeks and you will make the 16 level with room to spare.

No shame in not doing it in two weeks time if you have been injured. We have set a Federation deadline of 1st September for our squad to pass the Yo Yo test, and intend to hold one for them all together at our pre-season meeting in August. After that any one who has not passed will have to get the test done by their Society TDO and pass it before they will be appointed to any Federation matches.