Lee Lifeson-Peart
Referees in England
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... the kindly old ref ....
What the...? :biggrin:
... the kindly old ref ....
It's a bit like taking a QT after the lineout has formed: it doesn't have the effect of restarting the game - but you don't give turnover ball to the oppo.
cross ref - I suspect you will see some changes emerging over the next few years or so....
we're in Mddx, but our league contains clubs in Herts, Middx and Bedfordshire so which CB is responsibile and which Scoieties? Plus we regularly play friendlies against clubs from Surrey, Hants, Sussex and Berks. So CBs are pretty interchanngable. The local Society is London, the boundaries of which (as you know) are different all over again. Meanwhile in we are so local to the RFU we see them all the time - administratively more than Middx.
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Phil E - you ask when he will learn if "refs keep letting him get away with it". I don't see he's got away with anything. He tried to restart in a way that cannot officially get the game going. I'd pull him back and make him do it properly - as I'm sure would all refs; but he hasn't committed an offence for which there is a sanction.
Sanction for what offence committed while the ball is dead?Sanction: Any infringement by the kicker’s team results in a scrum at the mark. The
opposing team throws in the ball.
To show how it works in our area for a club ref moving to Society :
it's interesting that your correspondent is ALREADY a member of the Society, even though he isn't refereeing adult games and therefore not accepting Society appointments. That option isn't always available in other Societies.
I had to undertake to do 1 a month (adult fixture) before I was allowed in. When I first enquired I was turned down when I said "not every week" but luckily someone else with a bit more forethought rang me back.:bday:
one thing to consider, especially for junior games is a "ground manager" (often wears a high vis. vest).
Before you start to get images of heavy set security guards with batons.... Ground managers are appointed by the home club (often a member of the club's committee) to oversee the whole running/ coordination of game days, on and off the pitch.
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I like that idea - we actually have someone who fulfills pretty much that role (I suspect many clubs probably do) but not officially and and only the club insiders would no who he is. Someone you could approach there-and-then would be an excellent way of nipping problems in the bud before it's too late. So often here the remedy is write-to-the-club-afterwards and, of course, come Monday mornnig it's all yesterday and you can't be bothered.
The principle is excellent - recognisable point of contact with known mandate and teeth (hopefully) - it seems to together with your proper TJs/ARses at all levels, that the back office part of Rugby in Australia is must more "sorted" than here - pity you can't have a wash and a drink when you've finished!:biggrin:
it's interesting that your correspondent is ALREADY a member of the Society, even though he isn't refereeing adult games and therefore not accepting Society appointments. That option isn't always available in other Societies.
we have an open and inclusive approach - perhaps over time others will too