- Sep 3, 2014
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I hope I'm one of the three. Dickie, he could view your post, answer it and still let you on his ignore list.
I think ignore lists are a good thing, since they help cut down on the very behaviour the OP speaks of.
I've noticed I've "liked" a lot of your posts of late Pegleg I am obviously teaching you well ;-)
I learn a lot from a number of posters. One thing I find useful in your posts is the alternative view of the coach. Refs can tend to exist in a bubble without considering properly what coaches and players etc want / expect from us. We don't have to agree at the end but we do need to hear and consider.
I learn a lot from a number of posters. One thing I find useful in your posts is the alternative view of the coach. Refs can tend to exist in a bubble without considering properly what coaches and players etc want / expect from us.
Get a room you two :buttkick:
So I am curious .. do the mod team think that the standard of behaviour is just peachy and there is nothing to be done ? Or do they think standards do need to be improved and they are putting f some actions into place ?
Ditto for the problem that Phil E raises
I'd be disappointed if you don't receive a reply to a PM.
My view is that the standard of posts and objective debate has gone down in the last 5 years, with too many being focused on obscure law interpretations or debates, or in some cases personal fads.
Is that view shared by the other mods?
Is that view shared by the other mods, and if so any consideration of actions the Mods could take to change things ?
Its shared by me.
I also have a beef with people who are picky-choosey about advice from elite referees. This is something that annoys me about you in particular Crossref (but you are not the only one by any means)
Back a few months ago when we were having the debate about Law 14 and the ball being played by a player off his feet, I posted some information in the form of an emailed reply from Rod Hill, the NZRU Referee High Performance manager. You werent interested in taking this information on board and continued to argue that you would go with your own interpretation.
Fast forward to last week, when a new poster asked a question about creation of a "mono" ruck under the new Law, a couple of experienced regulars posted information from a Panel Ref, a Panel AR and their Society's "resident Premiership Referee". You accepted this without question, and said you regarded their comments as "well sourced and eminently practical".
Now, it is not my intention to embarrass you by pointing this out, nor is it my intention to re-debate these points, but can you see how I have a problem with this?
- your problem with me is that I am picky-choosy about advice from elite referees, and I didn't think that Rod Kafer's email definitively settled a long-running debate.
- and my problem with you is that you are consistently aggressive and quite unnecessarily rude to multiple posters.
when issues come up the mods have a space where they discuss/debate the pros & cons. This type of issue usually percolates to a freedom of expression debate with (suprise, surprise) diiferent mods having a variety of views.
In general I try to do what Robbie asked initially - to moderate the site. That is not being a thought or behavior policeman day-to-day, but deal with excesses.
I don't think it's for the Mods to enforce a "hey, that's not why we're here" standard on the community. And this subject comes up every once in a while.
[...] I see our role as Mods to generally make sure that behavior doesn't stray too far over the line. It doesn't happen too oftern.
Good rugby refs are more proactive -- they think about the standards they want to set, communicate the standards clearly, and enforce them appropriately. If they are very good they can accomplish an enormous amount with Ask and Tell, but they musn't be afraid to Penalise. That way a good game of rugby can happen
I thought that was good. I think the objectives of you mods should be to give posters the best possible rugby referees forum they could have.
I'm not saying it's entirely easy or straightforward, but I am saying that you could do more
[TBH I suspect that it doesn't help you that that there are large number of you and that (so far as I can tell) no one is in charge]